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CHRIS COX: Riley, you ready to go back to school?

RILEY BASS: What? No, I’m not ready to go back to school.

CHRIS COX: You don’t want to go back to school? I love school.

RILEY BASS: No you don’t. Don’t lie.

CHRIS COX: I’m glad to be out.

RILEY BASS: I loved school when I was there, but I don’t think I could go back.

CHRIS COX: Yeah. You know, people say, are going to go back and get your MBA? And I just look at them like, you’re crazy.

RILEY BASS: No. No.

CHRIS COX: Nope. Not going to do it. Maybe one day, I don’t know.

RILEY BASS: I do miss having the summers off.

CHRIS COX: The summers off were pretty nice. Although in AuD school the summers aren’t really off. We still had to go to school. Didn’t you have to go to school, too?

RILEY BASS: Well, we had summer school in June, but then we had July and August off. Well half of August, then we went back to class.

CHRIS COX: Was it a rural school that you went to?

RILEY BASS: I mean it was in a town. It was not in the country. If that’s your question. It was probably in a smaller city than Dallas.

CHRIS COX: That makes sense. Did you guys have to get a bus down and all that?

RILEY BASS: We rode our tractors.

CHRIS COX: That’s what thought. We rode our horses.

RILEY BASS: Yeah, figured. Down on the range.

CHRIS COX: All right, so–

RILEY BASS: Speaking of school.

CHRIS COX: Speaking of school. This podcast is actually maybe more directed to our undergraduate friends that may be considering going into audiology school. We wanted to take an opportunity while we have a guest with us today. But we wanted to take the opportunity while this guest was with us for the summer as an intern. And as someone who is kind of headed towards audiology school, we thought maybe we could do an episode for undergrads who are thinking about going into audiology school, and what that all entails. So we would like to welcome to the show, our summer intern–

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RILEY BASS: HARLEE DANIELS.

HARLEE DANIELS: Hi guys. Thanks for having me.

CHRIS COX: Hi HARLEE DANIELS. We’re glad to have you.

RILEY BASS: Thanks for the coffee this summer.

CHRIS COX: Did a good job.

RILEY BASS: Just kidding. I never asked her one time to bring me coffee, and she offered and said that it would fulfill her intern dreams if she could bring me coffee. So I let her. But just one time, guys.

HARLEE DANIELS: I did. Dream’s completed I’m sorry, Chris.

CHRIS COX: It’s okay. You’ve got one more day here.

RILEY BASS: She likes me better.

CHRIS COX: Figures.

So HARLEE DANIELS, tell us a little bit about yourself and some of your background.

HARLEE DANIELS: Well I’m from Savannah, Georgia.

CHRIS COX: All right. South.

RILEY BASS: That is the south.

HARLEE DANIELS: Yes, it is. I don’t have the accent, though.

RILEY BASS: Is your house haunted?

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HARLEE DANIELS: Sometimes I think it is.

RILEY BASS: I’ve heard every everything in Savannah is haunted.

HARLEE DANIELS: Yeah. My house was built before the Civil War. So, probably.

RILEY BASS: Probably.

HARLEE DANIELS: It probably is.

RILEY BASS: Well, hopefully he’s friendly. Or she.

HARLEE DANIELS: We like to say that whenever things go missing, that it was my grandma.

RILEY BASS: No, grandma was just causing a ruckus.

HARLEE DANIELS: So, we’ll be walking through the house and they’ll be like– we’ll think something’s there and then it won’t be later– it’s usually just because my stepdad moved it– but we’re like oh, grandma’s at it again. Moving stuff around.

RILEY BASS: Grandmas can be such a handful.

CHRIS COX: So, your house may be haunted by Grandma.

HARLEE DANIELS: It might be haunted. But anyway.

So I’m a student at the University of Georgia. And a communication sciences and disorders major. And headed towards audiology.

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CHRIS COX: Yes. Love it. Love to hear that.

RILEY BASS: So you are going to be an audiologist. That’s very exciting. But how did you get up here?

HARLEE DANIELS: Well,

CHRIS COX: Wait. Hold on. Can I back up once?

RILEY BASS: Yeah.

CHRIS COX: Just one little bit.

RILEY BASS: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

CHRIS COX: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I really want to know how you even thought about being an audiologist in the first place. What’s your story?

HARLEE DANIELS: So I started wanting to do education. And then quickly learned in my first experience with a room full of 24 four-year-olds that that was not for me. At all.

RILEY BASS: Yeah, right?

HARLEE DANIELS: So, then after I tutored in high school, I really like the one-on-one. And so I leaned towards speech therapy. And then when I realized that audiology was also included with the CMSD major, I was like, I like ears. That sounds fun. And so that’s kind of how I ended up wanting to do audiology.

CHRIS COX: Cool. So you like ears.

HARLEE DANIELS: I do. I think they’re cool.

CHRIS COX: Instead of four-year-olds.

RILEY BASS: That’s something we have in common.

CHRIS COX: OK. All right. So then your question, Riley.

RILEY BASS: OK. So how did you end up spending the summer in Washington with us?

HARLEE DANIELS: A friend of our family works here, and thought it would be a good idea for me to apply for an internship. So I did. And I got it. And now I get to hang out with these two nut jobs.

CHRIS COX: What?

RILEY BASS: What? Who, Will?

CHRIS COX: Will. Our producer. He sits over here and giggles all the time.

RILEY BASS: Will. And the ghost of your grandma.

HARLEE DANIELS: Yep.

RILEY BASS: She followed you up here. Because I know you’re not talking about Chris and I.

HARLEE DANIELS: Of course not.

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RILEY BASS: Well, I hope you have had a fun summer hanging out with us up here. We can definitely be a little bit crazy, but hopefully you’ve learned a little bit and had a little bit of fun along the way, too.

HARLEE DANIELS: I have. It’s been such a great experience. And I’m not ready to go home yet.

CHRIS COX: Yeah, I bet it’s a whole lot better up here than it is in Georgia.

HARLEE DANIELS: Oh my gosh. The weather’s amazing here.

CHRIS COX: Isn’t it? I love it.

RILEY BASS: Just wait a few more months until it rains every day for six months. And you’ll be like, oh my gosh, I just want sunshine. We digress.

CHRIS COX: OK. So, you’re an undergrad. Again, we’re hoping that this reaches maybe a different audience. We want to be able to help people that are making that decision to go into either one, audiology, but two, once you have chosen audiology, where might you point? Like what are the next steps?

So, what do you think? What are some questions that you’ve had that you would like to maybe chat with us about, and we can maybe help answer?

HARLEE DANIELS: Well, the first question I guess that I would have would be, where do I start to apply to schools? Like what do I do to start the application process.

CHRIS COX: OK. That’s a good one.

Where do you start? That’s kind of a hard– where’s the first step? I think, probably the number one thing you’re going to want to do is take the GRE.

HARLEE DANIELS: Right.

CHRIS COX: You’re going to want to take that– kind of a standardized– well it is a standardized test. And you see how you do on that score, and if you do well then you can move on with the application process.

So, GRE first. Second, you want to start looking at your university choices. Some people go by location, some people go by prestige, some people go by where their boyfriend is going. I would recommend that last one. But, there are many different factors in there. So for you, what is most important? Location or experience?

HARLEE DANIELS: Probably more towards experience. I’m pretty open to going anywhere as long as it’s a good program.

RILEY BASS: I mean she did up and move to Washington for the summer.

CHRIS COX: Yeah. That’s kind of cool.

So definitely looking at the location there are different things– I guess there are different characteristics of each university. But I would say in my experience in looking at all of the 75 universites– AuD universities that are out there across the country, there are some that lean more research, and some that lean more clinical. So there are people that are a lot more focused on the research aspect of things, which is great. And there’s others that are not as focused on that, but more focused on the clinical piece of that.

So, how do you know which one does what? That’s kind of a little more of a tough question. It’s not like they publish, like hey we’re more focused on research. But by and large, a lot of the top schools are really a lot more focused on research, because the way they get the higher ranking is through the publications of that research, and the notoriety that they get through that.

So keep that in mind when you’re looking at that. If you are interested in that research side of things, it’s a good way to kind of get started there.

RILEY BASS: Right. And similarly, don’t look at those ranking lists. There’s the US News and World Report one that comes out every year, ranking all the audiology schools. I would say to take those with a grain of salt, because– yes, they do establish some sort of merit. But those are widely based off of publications and published work. So, just because a university’s not cranking out tons and tons of research every year doesn’t mean that they don’t have a really great program. Especially a clinical program if what you’re looking for is that more clinical hands-on from day one. Some of the universities are going to have that even though they don’t have that prestige of being like, this is the number one school in America.

I would say definitely any of the 75 universities out there are going to give you a great education.

HARLEE DANIELS: How many schools should I apply to?

CHRIS COX: All 75.

RILEY BASS: All of them.

CHRIS COX: Really, if you’re open to anything geographically, I would say look at some of the ones that are going to provide you a good possible experience out in the field. So, in audiology school you get a chance to go do rotations through different practices and settings– hospitals and VA and all that type of stuff. Usually the bigger cities are going to have more variety of things to go to closer to where you are. If you go to somewhere out more rurally, you may have to drive further. They may have some really great opportunities, but you may have to drive a little bit further. So keep that in mind when you’re picking things just off the map.

The other thing I might look at is, not just geographically, and not just location, like is it a metropolitan area or not. But also take a look at what they’re– like looking on their website– what their philosophies are around their teaching.

Like I said, each one of them is different. But they will post on their website, they’ll usually post what their goals are for their students and for their faculty. And you can read through that and see how that university integrates in with their community, and integrates in with the rest of the university. You’ll be able to really see that, I believe, on their website, on their Facebook posts if they have any social media or anything like that, and see how active their university groups are. I know that a lot of the SAA chapters, the Student Academy of Audiology chapters, post a lot of things on their Facebook pages as well. And so you can kind of get a feel for that university based on what is online.

RILEY BASS: To your point of the whole rural college, I guess by those standards I did go to a fairly rural school. And most of my–

CHRIS COX: Ha.

RILEY BASS: –clinic placements– why are you making fun of me for that?

CHRIS COX: I don’t know. It’s fun.

RILEY BASS: Is that a bad thing?

Most of my clinic placements were further away from where I was living, which was in the town where the university was. It gave us an opportunity within about a three hour range, though, we had several big metropolitan cities that we had great hospitals, we had great research facilities, we had several VA hospitals that we could go to. And it just worked out, you know my grandparents lived in one of those cities. So I would go up and stay with them every week and then work clinic for two days and then drive home. And, you know there’s a lot of options and there’s a lot of ways to make it work depending on if you’re in that rural or more metropolitan area, so.

CHRIS COX: Yeah.

RILEY BASS: CHRIS COX: If you don’t mind driving.

CHRIS COX: For sure. And there’s another aspect that I would look at too is the cost of living in a certain spot. So if you’re moving away from home, which you would be living with someone rent-free versus moving away– going from Savannah, Georgia to Los Angeles, California is going to be a pretty big jump. And unless you have family there that you could stay with, you’re going to have to also consider housing and all that type of stuff. Or you can go somewhere else and live with family there, find it a cheap way of living for the four years that you’re going to be in that location. So, also keep that in mind whenever you’re about to make that move.

RILEY BASS: I was just talking to a student that’s going to school in the Bay Area, and she said that she rents a bunk in a room that she shares with someone else in a three bedroom apartment– so there’s six of them living in an apartment. And she paid more in rent than I did for a one bedroom apartment to myself when I was in graduate school.

CHRIS COX: It is the Bay Area. It’s like one of the most expensive places you can live.

RILEY BASS: Right. So, you could like share a bunk in and apartment with six people, or, you know if you go somewhere a little more rural like me, then you can have an apartment to yourself. I had a cat as my roommate. You know there’s definitely a big difference in what you can expect to be able to afford.

CHRIS COX: Right. There are some other online resources too. I know there are some forums out there for undergraduates to look at and you know they can be frequented by some students and AuD’s as they’ve gone through. There’s a couple forums out there that you can just look for. Just do a search for audiology school, or audiology student forums, and you’ll some things you can look through there.

So those are all pieces of a bigger puzzle of how do I choose the schools that I want to go to. And some of it’s based on location. Some of it’s based on notoriety. Some of it’s based on cost of living. Some of it’s going to be based on the reputation the school has within the community, and with the students. So I hope I could wrap that little piece up for you so we can ask the next question.

I know we went really far off on that one so I wanted to wrap it up.

RILEY BASS: So many things to think about.

CHRIS COX: So many.

HARLEE DANIELS: Once I decide where I want to go, what are good ways to get the grad programs to recognize my name amongst everyone else’s?

RILEY BASS: What you’re doing right now is a huge, you know, something that you can write on your resume when you apply is that you got to spend a summer, you know, looking at the business side of audiology. And I would think that that would be something that would be something a lot of other students are going to have going into audiology school.

CHRIS COX: To add on to that, I think experience is a huge thing. But I also think, something that we’ve talked about here a few times, and I think what is going to set yourself apart with faculty that are reading your applications and your– OK so let me say this– a good way to show what you’re about and what your intentions are is through that letter of intent. It’s usually something that goes along with every application. You have to write a letter of, you know, why you want to go to that school and why you’d be a good fit, and all that kind of stuff.

So not only do you have to do the research on the university, but you also need to know your motivations for doing it. And I think it really just comes down to your passion. And we’ve talked about this before. What are you passionate about? Why is that you want to go in audiology? And if you keep that top of mind and show forth that passion in everything that you do leading up to being accepted in the university, especially through that letter of intent, I think that’s going to be a great way to set you apart. Along with that experience, like Riley said. Because if you show that you’re passionate about it, they’re going to love to have you there because they know that you’re going to take your work seriously. They know that they’re going to be able to depend on you. And they want to be proud to be able to graduate somebody that’s got that passion and the fire for the profession that they’re representing.

HARLEE DANIELS: What universities did you guys go to?

RILEY BASS: I went to Missouri State University in Springfield, Missouri. Go bears. I graduated in 2013, and what I really loved about the program was that starting on day one, the first day I walked in there they had us in the clinic, and by two weeks and we were seeing patients. And we were starting to really get hands on and doing hearing tests, and doing a otoscopy, and doing tympanometry, and all those things within the first month that I was there. I was doing all those things, and I could even do like a pretty solid audio test by the first month I was there. And I think that, that really heavy emphasis on clinic really set me up for success when I went and started doing clinical on-sites at different places, because I already knew a lot of that stuff. And I didn’t have to be taught and coached just relentlessly by those supervisors that had other things to do. I was able to kind of stand independently. So, that was a huge thing for me at my university.

CHRIS COX: I went to school at College of the Mainland. It was just for a couple summer school semesters. And that was really fun. And all I really wanted to do is I just wanted to say at one point in my life that I went to College of the Mainland. It’s down in Texas.

But where I went for AuD school was University of North Texas.

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I loved the school. It was a great experience. And we did focus a lot more on the clinical side of things. And I felt very prepared to do all of the audiology battery within the first year. And I really did appreciate the education I got there. And I recommend it to whoever’s there, or whoever is thinking about going, because it’s a great spot up in north Texas, obviously, in Denton, Texas.

RILEY BASS (SARCASTICALLY): University of North Texas is in North Texas? What?

CHRIS COX: Can believe it? Go mean green.

RILEY BASS: I’m telling you, that’s not a mascot. It’s just a color.

CHRIS COX: It’s an angry color that’s going to kick your butt. Anyway. So yes, that’s where we went. And I finally got to hail from College of the Mainland once.

HARLEE DANIELS: That’s cool. What majors were you guys before you started your graduate school? What did you graduate with with your undergrad?

RILEY BASS: I’m going to go first because yours is complicated. I was a CSD major. So I have a bachelor’s in communication sciences and disorders, and a minor in linguistics prior to going to audiology school.

CHRIS COX: Cool. And mine isn’t really all that complicated. I’m just from out of field, which was biology with a minor in business management. So, my whole thing was I was going to go to med school, and then I got to the end of my undergrad and I was like, I’m done in school. I don’t want to school anymore. So I decided not to go back to school again until later.

But that’s where I was going. So that’s why I have a biology degree.

HARLEE DANIELS: So, you mean you don’t have to be a CMSD major to go into any audiology?

CHRIS COX: Actually you don’t. And that’s a really good question, because a lot of people don’t really know from the outside how to get into audiology. There’s no real path anywhere else. Unless you’ve been in the communication sciences disorders department, you most likely don’t know that audiology even exists. So, you don’t have to be in the CSD major, or department, as an undergrad to be able to get into audiology school. Actually, they’re looking for people from outside the CSD fields because they want to diversify a little bit. So they’re really looking for the people from the other sciences. Biology, and chemistry, and so forth, that maybe wanted to get in a medical profession, but didn’t want to go to med school. Like me. There’s a lot of people that are like that.

So, part of this also is to let everybody know that you don’t have to be that speechy undergrad. You can actually be from somewhere else and come in. You may have to do a few leveling courses, as they call it. So I had to go back and pick up some speech development courses– normal development and child, I think, language development. It was interesting. I knew as I was going through it I wasn’t going to ever use them again. But it was interesting to understand that and learn that going through my audiology program. Totally manageable.

HARLEE DANIELS: Once I get into the program, what can I expect to see as a student?

RILEY BASS: Textbooks

CHRIS COX: And the library.

RILEY BASS: Just kidding. I still have textbooks on my bookshelf that have plastic crap on them.

CHRIS COX: Good investment right there. All $300 of it, right?

RILEY BASS: I know. It’s disappointing.

CHRIS COX: You know, here’s what I’ll say. High school, I didn’t really study a whole lot. Did homework last minute all the time–

RILEY BASS: Played in the band.

CHRIS COX: Played in marching band. And that’s what I spent a lot of my time doing. But the thing that I noticed going into college is I had to study a little bit more especially once I switched over to biology. I had spent a lot of time memorizing things and so forth. So I spent a little bit more studying in college than in high school. Then I went to grad school and I actually studied. I feel I studied more in my first semester in grad school than I had, like all of my college career. My undergrad career. And it’s just because it’s a lot of stuff. It’s not necessarily hard. It’s just that there’s a lot of stuff that they’re throwing at you. And it’s new concepts. New things that I hadn’t even thought about. Things like hearing science. And psychoacoustics. And things like that that have existed, but I had no idea that they were there. And I’ve got to learn about every single little piece of it.

So it’s not necessarily that it’s difficult. It’s just that there’s a lot of information. So that requires you spending a lot of time sitting down and sorting through it, and parsing through it, and putting it together.

RILEY BASS: My university was really front-heavy on the difficulty of the classes. I feel like the first two semesters really were very, very challenging, and I was spending a lot of time studying. And then after I kind of rolled into my second year, it was sort of like, you’ve got this now. There’s let’s start talking about the applications of just these facts that you’ve been studying to learn. Let’s talk about how they impact you.

And then moving into third year moving more into that research is what we did. And so, I definitely saw there was a shift in just that tedious, you know, studying. And, you know, I don’t want to lie and say that it’s not a challenge. And you want to be a challenge. You definitely, you know, don’t want to go and get this degree and it be easy. And you don’t want to go see a doctor somewhere where they were like, oh I didn’t study in that school– it’s fine.

So, you know, it’s good that it’s a little bit of hard work up front, and you really have to put that nose to the grindstone and work hard. Especially, well for me it was really much that first year. And then it sort of started to lighten up a little bit, where I was still studying, you know, and had exams and everything. But it was just a more practical application instead of just rhetoric of just learning and learning words and learning phrases and learning terms and stuff.

CHRIS COX: Yeah, it’s basically building the foundation for that first year.

RILEY BASS: Right.

CHRIS COX: I’d say it’s intense the first year because it’s new. It’s intense the second year because you’re taking everything you just learned a semester ago and putting it together and showing that you really understand what the concepts were that you learned. And unlike with some of the classes in undergraduate where you take it and then you can kind of forget it until the next semester, and then you can maybe pull some of those things from [INAUDIBLE] just re-learn it. This really, really builds on the previous semester, and you have to get those down before you can move on. Or at least move on successfully.

So, for me is kind of the same thing. First year, intense. Second year, intense. But I would say it kind of peaks right in like the last semester of the second year. And then it just kind of starts going down from there. Not in difficulty. But it’s like something clicks in– it did for me anyway– something clicked in my brain where it all started coming together. It all started clicking. It all started sort of making sense. And then I could actually use it and understand what I was doing with it.

So, first year, yeah, it’s going to be kind of tough.

RILEY BASS: You’ll get through it.

CHRIS COX: You’ll get through it.

The cool part about it– and here’s how it was at my school, anyway. Our professors wanted us to succeed. They didn’t want to fail anybody out. They wanted to make sure that we had everything that we needed to be able to pass the classes, and learn what we needed to learn. And that’s what I really appreciated about it. I always thought that once you got in the grad school they were trying to do their best to kick you out. And it’s exactly, exactly the opposite. They want you to succeed they want you to graduate. And that really kind of helped me mentally knowing that I didn’t I didn’t have to worry about that piece so much. I knew they had my back.

RILEY BASS: And the good thing about audiology programs is they’re pretty small. So you get to be really close with your cohort, with your classmates. And you guys will definitely figure out groups of how to study together. And I mean we studied together for everything.

CHRIS COX: Yeah. We were really close, too.

RILEY BASS: It was a really close-knit group and we definitely relied on one another.

HARLEE DANIELS: So, if you could go back is there something that–

CHRIS COX (SARCASTICALLY): No. I don’t want to go back. Don’t make me go back.

RILEY BASS: No.

HARLEE DANIELS: –Just something that you would do differently. Or something that you know now you wish you had known then?

RILEY BASS: I wish I had known that you could get a GA, or a Graduate Assistantship. I had no idea that those were even a thing. And some of my classmates had them, and they got a huge deal on their tuition. Like, I mean less than half of what I was paying for tuition, they got off of theirs. Which I wish I had known about, because then I would not have had to take so much in student loan money.

CHRIS COX: Oh, yeah. We did talk about loans already.

I knew about that but I didn’t really feel like it was–

RILEY BASS: But you were lazy.

CHRIS COX: Well I was waiting tables at the same time, and I got more waiting tables than I would have doing the GA or TA or whatever. So I opted out of doing it. I don’t regret that part, though. So, for me, I got a lot of free Italian food. It was great.

RILEY BASS: And on Tuesdays they let him play the saxophone in the restaurant.

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CHRIS COX: They did not. It was Wednesdays they let me do that.

What I know now that I wish I would’ve paid more attention to back then were just the relationships that we developed as a group, as a cohort. There are nine of us that started out, and by the time we were all graduated there are seven of us. But we did spend a lot of time together. And we did a lot of things together. And I was lucky enough that all of us liked to hang out with each other. And I know that some classes out there weren’t as close. For whatever reasons. But, I was happy that ours was as close as it was. And we’ve had some lasting relationships. And now even after I’ve graduated we see each other, we visit each other, we call each other on a semi-regular basis. And I just hope that, whoever is listening, as you get into your school and your classes, that you really appreciate those people around you. Because I honestly couldn’t have made it through without my classmates. I really couldn’t have.

We worked so well together, and we kept each other supported. And we all broke down. I mean, I’m not going to lie, through the whole thing we all each had some sort of breakdown where we were just like, I can’t do this anymore.

RILEY BASS: His nickname was Crybaby Chris.

CHRIS COX (SARCASTICALLY): That’s right. I cried all the time. After every class.

Anyway. But the point is that they were a real big support group. So, I would say– and I didn’t know that really going in– and so I would say whoever’s listening, as you’re getting into that class, know– and get to know, and build relationships with your classmates. Because it can really change the way that you experience four years in the audiology school.

RILEY BASS: Right. And not just your classmates, but other students everywhere. You know, you’re going to have opportunities to network, and I strongly encourage you to do that.

CHRIS COX: Network. We have that one.

RILEY BASS: What? I know, it’s like our very first podcast flashback.

I said then that I didn’t think I did enough networking back when I was in audiology school, and I’m trying to make up for lost time now. But, get involved. Find out different activities that you can participate in. And whenever you go to these events and you meet other students, stay in contact with them because there’s not a whole lot of audiologists in the country, and you’re going to see the same people at the same conferences every single year. So, make friends with them. It definitely will make your experience in the audiology community a lot better.

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CHRIS COX: All right, HARLEE DANIELS. These have been great questions. I know that there may be a whole lot more. Do you have any questions right now?

HARLEE DANIELS: Nope. I think I’m good. Thank you so much for letting me ask you all my random questions.

CHRIS COX: It’s OK. That’s what we’re here for. We’ve been happy to have you on, and here with us for the summer. And glad that you’re in the direction of audiology. It excites us.

RILEY BASS: Yes, thank you for putting up with us all summer and hanging out with us.

If you do you think of any more questions, please let us know. And if any listeners out there have any questions following up on what we talked about today, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us. Probably the easiest way to get our attention is Twitter. I am @rileyb659.

CHRIS COX: And I am @coxchriscox.

RILEY BASS: Or, as always, there’s @the_pAuDcast. Spelled like you see in the logo. Please subscribe to us on iTunes, leave us some feedback, and make sure you tell your friends. Especially your undergrad ones that you think might make a fantastic audiologist.

HARLEE DANIELS, thank you so much for spending your last day in the office on the podcast with us.

CHRIS COX: Have fun back in Savannah.

RILEY BASS: Yes, please don’t forget us. Write us letters and send them in the mail.

HARLEE DANIELS: I’ll try not to. I’m pretty sure you two are pretty unforgettable.

RILEY BASS: You can listen to us every week.

HARLEE DANIELS: I will. Every weekend I’ll just cry, because–

RILEY BASS: Just remember your time on the podcast.

HARLEE DANIELS: Thank you guys, for having me.

RILEY BASS: Thank you. We are out. We’ll talk to you next week, guys. Bye.

CHRIS COX: Bye.